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this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to pick somebody to be over 80 years of age and not a cardinal at all. in all reality, it will be one of the younger cardinals who is won of the election fors and some suggest a pope alone may not be enough. when you have a new pope, you have a new vatican council. things that need to be changed are of such dimension, proportion, impact on the church it will take a referendum, and one of the frustrations, satellite communications aside, it's hard to report when all of the guys know what's going on are your honor secrecy under threat of excommunication. >> hard to break a
this may last longer than it took to pick joseph ratzinger. they may need the time. >> they have to pick the right person, and they have to take into account the sexual abuse that's gone on and make sure the next pope is a better ambassador than perhaps pope benedict was, right? young and vibrant and able to connect with young catholics. >> absolutely. and we know this. we know he's one of the men in the room, right? one of the 115 cardinals. he doesn't have to be. could have to...
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eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front-runner. this year, there is no clear concession on a front-runner. they're hoping to energize the church's 1.2 catholics. their favorite appears to be odilo pedro scherer. also angelo scola is a favorite. american cardinals, timothy dolan of new york and cardinal sean patrick o'malley of boston also appear to be in the mix. >>> president obama is expecting to ramp up a charm offensive traveling to capitol hill to attend each party's weekly meetings. the recent steps in reaching out including dining with top senators could go a long way in reaching a budget deal but that they would not have changed the political impact the country is in today. >> i'm welcoming with open arms. i think the president is tremendously sincere. i don't think this is a poe will the call change in tactics. i think he would like to solve the problems of the country and it would be to his benefit and every american's benefit if he did that. it's time to start leading. the way you do that is quit poking your finger in pe
eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front-runner. this year, there is no clear concession on a front-runner. they're hoping to energize the church's 1.2 catholics. their favorite appears to be odilo pedro scherer. also angelo scola is a favorite. american cardinals, timothy dolan of new york and cardinal sean patrick o'malley of boston also appear to be in the mix. >>> president obama is expecting to ramp up a charm offensive traveling to capitol hill to attend each...
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the former cardinal joseph ratzinger was touched by the charges of child abuse in the catholic church. bill: what happens next on the dates that are aren't? >> reporter: he's leaving february 28, 8:00 p.m. local time in rome. that leaves that very important vacancy and sets up a conclave of cardinals. vatican says by mid-march at the latest. vatican says we should have a new pope by esther sunday march 31. pope benedict will not take part in the conclave. usually a conclave happens after a pope dies. 1415 was the last time a pope quit in office. who is the next pope? he could come from developing areas of the world. it guarantees a lot of drama and a lot of black or white smoke coming from the roof is sistine chapel. march report concerns about the pope's health surfaced this past christmas eve. have it can watchers say he looked frail as he delivered the midnight mass. here he is riding in a motorized cart. the mass is moved up two hours to give the pope time to rest for the christmas day speech. he took the opportunity to urge peace in the middle east during the holidays and was loo
the former cardinal joseph ratzinger was touched by the charges of child abuse in the catholic church. bill: what happens next on the dates that are aren't? >> reporter: he's leaving february 28, 8:00 p.m. local time in rome. that leaves that very important vacancy and sets up a conclave of cardinals. vatican says by mid-march at the latest. vatican says we should have a new pope by esther sunday march 31. pope benedict will not take part in the conclave. usually a conclave happens after...
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german cardinal joseph ratzinger became pope in 2405. he was the oldest person to become the pontiff. he strongly opposed birth control but embraced new forms of communication and joined twitter. he faced a string of challenges from sexual abuse scandals involving members of clergy to an investigation of money laundering in vatican city. a court convicted his former butler of stealing and leaking classified documents that pointed to corruption in the vatican. the pope pardoned him over christmas. it's rare for a pope to resign. pope benedict is the first to quit in nearly 600 years. senior members of the catholic church will start planning their conclave, the meeting they hold to choose a successor. catholics make up a small portion of the japanese population, still, they have been surprised by the pope's resignation. peter tekao okeda became archbishop in japan, has visited the vatican twice and was shot when he heard about the resignation. >> translator: i couldn't believe the news. we didn't see it coming. i was hoping the pope would
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when joseph ratzinger was the favorite back then. he got 47 votes on the first ballot of the first day. then the second day on the second ballot, he got about 60 votes, which wasn't good enough for an overall majority even then. but then on the fourth ballot on the second day, well, he got the job with a vast majority. so how is that going to affect the conclave this time? well, certainly it will prolong a conclave that was already expected to belong in the first place, richard. >> we'll enjoy the process and claudio is there to report as this process goes forward. thanks, as always. >>> president obama says authorities are looking into whether private financial information belonging to the first lady was hacked and then later published. it comes as the president prepares to meet with business leaders on cybersecurity. about 100 celebrities and politicians had their personal information posted online on tuesday. all were apparent victims of what's called a docsing attack, posting information on the internet. mr. obama did not say whe
when joseph ratzinger was the favorite back then. he got 47 votes on the first ballot of the first day. then the second day on the second ballot, he got about 60 votes, which wasn't good enough for an overall majority even then. but then on the fourth ballot on the second day, well, he got the job with a vast majority. so how is that going to affect the conclave this time? well, certainly it will prolong a conclave that was already expected to belong in the first place, richard. >> we'll...
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as archbishop of munich benedict then cardinal rather than joseph ratzenberger i clearly meant joseph ratzinger not john ratzenberger tv's cliff clavin from the show "cheers." some of my critics took this small error as an opportunity to discount my entire argument. and if misprow announcing something is the new precedent for discrediting an argument, perhaps this will finer finally shut up all of the those neo-cons who couldn't wait to invade iraq. >> tonight i'm announceing a, we can fix this. and we will. the american people demand it, and so does our democracy. >> john: that was the sound of john boehner not clapping. who could ever disagree with that. let's go back to the end of that sound bite? mm-hmm that's vice president joe biden standing to applaud and as i mentioned there is house speaker john boehner remaining seated, not clapping anand looking completely miserable. i wonder why that may be. here to join us is ari berman, contributing writer to the nation. who just wrote a brilliant piece titled "why are conservatives trying to destroy the voting rights act." it appears on
as archbishop of munich benedict then cardinal rather than joseph ratzenberger i clearly meant joseph ratzinger not john ratzenberger tv's cliff clavin from the show "cheers." some of my critics took this small error as an opportunity to discount my entire argument. and if misprow announcing something is the new precedent for discrediting an argument, perhaps this will finer finally shut up all of the those neo-cons who couldn't wait to invade iraq. >> tonight i'm announceing a,...
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>> mara, angelo skoal la will bring continuity to the papacy of joseph ratzinger, pope deny dict xvi. so not much will change while the other two american cardinals who till a few weeks ago didn't stand a chance have suddenly become the front-runners of the so-called reformers, those that want to bring a breath of fesh repair into the vatican walls and to break the italian lock on that roman courier that was so much criticized by cardinals from around the world. scola is believed to have gotten the most votes last night. but the runners up are the american cardinal. we'll know soon enough in the next few days whether we do have the first american cardinal in history. >> what are the cardinals looking for? what direction do they want to take the church in? do we have any indications as to what those things might be? >> well, while the cardinals are divided, they seem to agree on one thing. they want a holy man who is also a businessman because while benedict xvi was appreciated as a great spiritual leader, he was criticized for not having had a strong hand on the administrative side of
>> mara, angelo skoal la will bring continuity to the papacy of joseph ratzinger, pope deny dict xvi. so not much will change while the other two american cardinals who till a few weeks ago didn't stand a chance have suddenly become the front-runners of the so-called reformers, those that want to bring a breath of fesh repair into the vatican walls and to break the italian lock on that roman courier that was so much criticized by cardinals from around the world. scola is believed to have...
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>> because he's along the line of joseph ratzinger. he thinks much like the president pope does. he's not as a lucid writer and speaker as the present pope, as benedict xvi was. he's been the head of two major italian diocese in venice and milan. >> just to be clear, again, i asked both george and father to give us the names of the people not necessarily who they think are front-runners but who they are hearing buzz about and i was surprised, father gahl, you put cardinal timothy dolan. i'm not surprised he's buzzed about here in the states but is there talk about him in the vatican? >> there's definitely talk about him in the vatican. historically also profound while at the same time being filled with cheerfulness, optimism about the faith. this is a part of the legacy of pope benedict, that he's left this legacy of the joy that all of us as christians could have. and i think cardinal dolan fills every room that he entered with joy. >> born in argentina to italian parents, i guess he pushes two geographic buttons. what else? >> i once asked cardinal sandri, do you think of yours
>> because he's along the line of joseph ratzinger. he thinks much like the president pope does. he's not as a lucid writer and speaker as the present pope, as benedict xvi was. he's been the head of two major italian diocese in venice and milan. >> just to be clear, again, i asked both george and father to give us the names of the people not necessarily who they think are front-runners but who they are hearing buzz about and i was surprised, father gahl, you put cardinal timothy...
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and the final wave from the former joseph ratzinger, the dean of cardinal is now pope benedict xvi. and we thought pope for life. obviously he's writing a new modern history of the catholic church. you can read more of my thoughts about the pope and see a longer version of this flashback on our website. that wraps up this hour of chris "jansing & co." richard lui is coming up next and is in for thomas roberts. >> the difficulty of watching this process throughout that time, the smoke comes out and you have to be able to tell what color it is. >> that was the fourth one. there were four votes and on none of them could we really tell. they all looked gray to us. and i was just reminded, as i was listening to that again, that because the crowd was so loud that when they announced it and it's as clear as can be that they announced that it was joseph ratzinger, we had to wait for somebody on the ground to tell us. we have another one coming up. >> you can feel the energy. i know you can't wait for this one as well. >> the food is good anyway. >> the food is always good. if anyone knows i
and the final wave from the former joseph ratzinger, the dean of cardinal is now pope benedict xvi. and we thought pope for life. obviously he's writing a new modern history of the catholic church. you can read more of my thoughts about the pope and see a longer version of this flashback on our website. that wraps up this hour of chris "jansing & co." richard lui is coming up next and is in for thomas roberts. >> the difficulty of watching this process throughout that time,...
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pope benedict xvi was born in 1927 as joseph ratzinger. he served in the army but deserted and was eventually captured by americans and then released. his decision sets the stage for a new pope to be elected before the end of march. the san francisco archdiocese just opened about a minute ago. we are hoping to speak to someone from there and get reaction on this event. >> all right. tara, you can get more information about the surprise resignation announcement about the pope by going to ktvu.com. click on the pope resigns tab. >>> 8:01. police in san mateo, warning residents about an increase in residential burglaries. the police say several burglaries have been reported in the fiesta gardens and shoreview neighborhoods of san mateo in recent weeks. most of them have been happening during the daytime when people are at work. the thieves usually 0 knock on the -- knock on the door first to find out if anyone is home. police are telling residents lock all of your windows and the doors. >>> a crash in concord left one man with life-threatenin
pope benedict xvi was born in 1927 as joseph ratzinger. he served in the army but deserted and was eventually captured by americans and then released. his decision sets the stage for a new pope to be elected before the end of march. the san francisco archdiocese just opened about a minute ago. we are hoping to speak to someone from there and get reaction on this event. >> all right. tara, you can get more information about the surprise resignation announcement about the pope by going to...
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it's a volkswagen golf, formerly owned by a man named joseph ratzinger, now known as pope benedict xvi. it's now listed on ebay and online casino bought it first back in 2005. that's the ceo right there. they're hoping to get $150,000. the proceeds will go to charity, they say. >>> also in the "index" tonight, take a look at this video, this 3-year-old nova scotia retriever, got stuck on the ice. on lake michigan. they sent in a chopper first, then a fire boat. finally, a man on a kayak swooped in, he dove into the frigid waters to get him. the dog actually tried to bite the guy. ultimately, they did get the dog off the lake and back with his owner. that's our "instant index" for tonight. >>> coming up next -- we're calling her the footloose first lady, what michelle obama did that's going viral tonight. [ jackie ] it's just so frustrating... ♪ the middle of this special moment and i need to run off to the bathroom. ♪ i'm fed up with always having to put my bladder's needs ahead of my daughter. ♪ so today, i'm finally talking to my doctor about overactive bladder symptoms. [ fema
it's a volkswagen golf, formerly owned by a man named joseph ratzinger, now known as pope benedict xvi. it's now listed on ebay and online casino bought it first back in 2005. that's the ceo right there. they're hoping to get $150,000. the proceeds will go to charity, they say. >>> also in the "index" tonight, take a look at this video, this 3-year-old nova scotia retriever, got stuck on the ice. on lake michigan. they sent in a chopper first, then a fire boat. finally, a man...
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i believe it was you who asked me how i felt seeing joseph ratzinger come out on the logia of st. peter's, who i had known at that point for some 17 years, how did i feel about him becoming pope? i said i felt desperately sorry for him because the job is, in one sense, an impossible one, but i was also glad for him because the world was finally going to see the joseph ratzinger i knew, not the cartoon of him that had been spread over the past 20 years. i think that's part of what's reflected in this crowd today. benedict xvi has been the greatest papal preacher in almost 1,400 years, since pope gregory the great. he's a marvelous catechist, a teacher of christian truth. he distills extraordinary learning into simple, elegant phrases that communicate with people all over the world. so there's a somewhat bittersweet sense this may be the last time the world gets to hear this remarkable personality lay out the truth of christian faith as he's been given to understand it, but i'm also having a sense of gratitude that we had eight years to learn from a master teacher, and i think the w
i believe it was you who asked me how i felt seeing joseph ratzinger come out on the logia of st. peter's, who i had known at that point for some 17 years, how did i feel about him becoming pope? i said i felt desperately sorry for him because the job is, in one sense, an impossible one, but i was also glad for him because the world was finally going to see the joseph ratzinger i knew, not the cartoon of him that had been spread over the past 20 years. i think that's part of what's reflected in...
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and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary. strength in the last few months deteriorated in me to the extent i have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. for this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom i declare i renounce the ministry of bishop of rome. successor of st. peter and entrusted to me by the cardinals on 19 april, 2005. amazing. welcome in a special panel to talk about the resignation. kathryn lopez with national review online. she talked to the pope last fall. david kerr is the correspondent with ewtn, global catholic media network in the
and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary....
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so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the timing which you know i'm completely obsessed with, that's mainly because i have to figure out when i have to get to rome, but when we're looking at what might be different this time, that's the excitement, right? what are you looking at from the outside? what do you think the possibilities here are? and are we being too excited? >> in terms of the candidates or in terms of what we're going to see going forward? >> because pope benedict has created precedent here by saying i'm resigning, this is the best thing for the church, will that idea, what's best fo
so cardinal joseph ratzinger seemed an obvious choice. this time there is no such obvious front runner and no simple, single, overriding issue that's driving the reflection, which is why a lot of us believe this conclave may be a little bit more complex and it may take a little bit longer for the cardinals to reach consensus. >> all right. all right, john, let's come back here to new york for a second. melinda, let me ask you, when you're looking at this from the outside, other than the...
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but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy spirit." >> and george, you pointed out, this is cardinal ray, who is right now as we see in front of the microphone there. the important part, george, that comes down to when they go to cast their first ballots, explain why the cardinals will try to disguise their handwriting? >> well, there is a bit of confidentiality involved in this. they're asked to write legibly, but in a way that is not clearly their own. this is a rather complicated instruction. they'll individually walk up to that urn in which the ballots are cast. and say, "i call to witness christ the lord, who will be my judge. that he for whom
but there was no doubt when they went into that conclave that joseph ratzinger was a front-runner. and we don't have that this time, george, do we? >> no, that's right, chris, no papal funeral. no mourning before a papal funeral. an unprecedented historical situation, and not only no front-runner, but no front row at daytona here. this is a much more wide-open process. as we watch cardinal giovanni batista ray say a prayer that concludes the singing of the ancient hymn "come holy...
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. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: his election has sparked excitement in latin america, both out of cultural pride and the recognition of the growing importance and influence of that part of the world. >> bergoglio brings latin america to rome and to the world. >> well, the man chosen to lead the roman catholic church has a busy first day. he's set to meet with his predecessor, the former pope benedict this morning, and then celebrate mass this afternoon. nbc's claudio la vantagea is at the vatican this morning. claudio, good morning. what's the mood like where you are? >> reporter: well, mara, cardinal bergoglio has only been pope for a few hours,
. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: his...
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. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: choosing to become pope francis, he takes the name of 13th-century preacher st. francis aseesie, who lived a life of poverty. no surprise to those who know him. >> you can see the humility of the man, you can see the calm of the man, and i can tell you, i know the strength of the man and the compassion of the man. >> reporter: his election has sparked excitement in latin america, both out of cultural pride and the recognition of the growing importance and influence of that part of the world. >> bergoglio brings latin america to rome and to the world. >> that was lester holt reporting. in a statement, president obama
. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter:...
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was 78 when he was chosen in 2005. but he wasn't the oldest pope. in the 12th and 13th centuries, two donned their robes at the age of 85. the youngest, pope john xii was a youthful 18 when he assumed the papacy. he had help of his father who fixed the election of his only son before his death. only one man was not a cardinal first. he was named pope urban vi back in 1378. the italians have clearly had the home field advantage, dominating it through the centuries. the conclave of 1978, produced the closest thing to a surprise we had in decades, in john paul ii, the first nonitalian in 500 years. more often than not, the outcome is predictable. without a clear front-runner going in this time, this conclave could be a cliff-hanger. that it for us from rome. "early start" begins now. >>> pope watch at the sistine chapel. a live picture right here, the world waiting for the signal with cardinals voting right now on a new pope. >>> a dramatic finish to an intense manhunt. police storm a motel room to catch a suspected killer. >>> sinkhole. >> this is cra
cardinal joseph ratzinger was 78 when he was chosen in 2005. but he wasn't the oldest pope. in the 12th and 13th centuries, two donned their robes at the age of 85. the youngest, pope john xii was a youthful 18 when he assumed the papacy. he had help of his father who fixed the election of his only son before his death. only one man was not a cardinal first. he was named pope urban vi back in 1378. the italians have clearly had the home field advantage, dominating it through the centuries. the...
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well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a worldwide church. yes, i think there are ready. they're not -- i don't think they are particularly too bothered about the fact that the next pope will be italian. they just want to know who is next because that's always a massive event here in rome. when the white smoke comes out of the sistine chapel, people will be charging here down the big street from rome into the vatican because everyone wantston who their new pope is. that's exciting. >> george, you talk about the challenges that the first has faced. is that going to be part of this conversation, the scandals here, and else where in the wo
well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a...
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>> we thought after john paul ii it would be a long conclave and they quickly elected joseph ratzinger. they might have one candidate that stands out and they finda anaise meeting. the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national colors. the new leader calling for unity in the nation. but the new libyan central government has little authority beyond the capitol of tripoli. the country is fractured. there are militia. >> explosion in baghdad this morning. 28 people were killed and dozens more wounded . here you can see burned out hulkings was -- buildings and cars. sunday is the beginning of the work day there. >> the national gun debate rages on and new quis of a po
>> we thought after john paul ii it would be a long conclave and they quickly elected joseph ratzinger. they might have one candidate that stands out and they finda anaise meeting. the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say....
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so this extraordinary moment in history, using the former joseph ratzinger who will be within hours be pope emeritus, getting into the car for this short ride to the helipad leaving the grounds of vatican city for the last time as the head of the roman catholic church. and liz lev, as our historian, give us some historical perspective and what you're seeing as you see this, as someone who has been so close to the vatican and lived ed id ino longe? >> i'm looking at this courtyard, which has had so many different events take place
so this extraordinary moment in history, using the former joseph ratzinger who will be within hours be pope emeritus, getting into the car for this short ride to the helipad leaving the grounds of vatican city for the last time as the head of the roman catholic church. and liz lev, as our historian, give us some historical perspective and what you're seeing as you see this, as someone who has been so close to the vatican and lived ed id ino longe? >> i'm looking at this courtyard, which...
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. ♪ >>> we're back. 85-year-old pope benedict, the former joseph ratzinger, made history today when he left the vatican in a helicopter from rome to the papal summer home, castel gandolfo, for the first phase of his retirement. in his final tweet as pope he said, quote, thank you for your love and support. may you always experience the joy that comes from putting christ at the center of your lives. his departure ushers in a new era for the church and the more than 1 billion catholics worldwide, and soon more than 100 cardinals will meet in conclave to select a new pope and decide the future of the faith. george weigel is our nbc news vatican analyst, and tom roberts is managing editor of "the national catholic reporter" and author of "the emerging catholic church." george, you know, in american presidential politics, we always try to correct for the latest president. you know, we had truman who had too much of a kansas city problem, so we brought in mr. clean eisenhower. we had nixon and ford, so we brought in a guy who had never been involved in politics or been to washington, carter.
. ♪ >>> we're back. 85-year-old pope benedict, the former joseph ratzinger, made history today when he left the vatican in a helicopter from rome to the papal summer home, castel gandolfo, for the first phase of his retirement. in his final tweet as pope he said, quote, thank you for your love and support. may you always experience the joy that comes from putting christ at the center of your lives. his departure ushers in a new era for the church and the more than 1 billion catholics...
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that's a great act of service to the church, and it's a great expression of the character of joseph ratzinger. >> kathy, let me go to you on this. what was your first reaction when you heard about this today? were you surprised? there's a lot of rumors around new york, by the way, that cardinal egan had been working on this for awhile and it had been kept silent but not entirely. were you shocked at this? what was your first reaction? >> absolutely shocked. thought it was a farce. had to look it up five times to see it was real. it's sad. really sad. i love this pope. there's so much love for this pope. and even though he's still going to be with us, it's really like a mourning of him, i think. some of us are experiencing. but i like what you said about humility. when we look at john paul ii's end, many people came away with his public suffering and death as thinking he's teaching us how to die. and now look at this pope. he's teaching us how to be humble. i think it's a beautiful lesson from pope benedict. >> george, it's a complicated question. but in a word as briefly as you can, how do yo
that's a great act of service to the church, and it's a great expression of the character of joseph ratzinger. >> kathy, let me go to you on this. what was your first reaction when you heard about this today? were you surprised? there's a lot of rumors around new york, by the way, that cardinal egan had been working on this for awhile and it had been kept silent but not entirely. were you shocked at this? what was your first reaction? >> absolutely shocked. thought it was a farce....
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he lost to then cardinal joseph ratzinger who became benedict the xvith. this time around, well, did he a little better. pope francis is the first non-you're mean leader of the church in more than 1200 years according to vatican records. back in are argentina the then cardinal was a man who lived simply. i mentioned he cooked his own meals and read the bus to work. he didn't live in a fancy church mansion that was available. he slept downtown where a small stove kept him warm. he didn't own a car. difficult to imagine how much this world is about to change. team fox coverage continues. trace gallagher live tonight. >> because cardinal came in second during the last conclave, many theological historians thought he would be a major role player during this one but not as the king, rather as the king maker. instead, we have a pope unlike any other. [cheers] >> his parishioners knew him as jorge pope francis. the robes and pageantry presented to a prince of the church known for his simplicity in humble manner his constant journey to uphold the teachings of chri
he lost to then cardinal joseph ratzinger who became benedict the xvith. this time around, well, did he a little better. pope francis is the first non-you're mean leader of the church in more than 1200 years according to vatican records. back in are argentina the then cardinal was a man who lived simply. i mentioned he cooked his own meals and read the bus to work. he didn't live in a fancy church mansion that was available. he slept downtown where a small stove kept him warm. he didn't own a...
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so i think a lot of people anticipate it's not going to be like 2005 when joseph ratzinger was elected on the fourth ballot after a day and a half. this is going to take a couple of days. i was struck by something else cardinal dolan said yesterday in that horrible media scrum. he said a week ago i wouldn't have told you we were ready. now he says he feels that they are ready to make this decision. >> we forget that so many of these cardinals were appointed by pope benedict so they really don't necessarily know each other. they're from all around the world. so they have had this time together to get to know each other, to have some conversations, and of course back home what everyone is talking about, father baron, is could there be an american pope. could there be a north american pope. the way one vatican insider put it to me yesterday was i think we've gone from a very long shot to a long shot. is that about right? >> the single most interesting thing about this period, two weeks ago i was interviewed and said any chance for an american pope. i said slim to none. i love timothy dola
so i think a lot of people anticipate it's not going to be like 2005 when joseph ratzinger was elected on the fourth ballot after a day and a half. this is going to take a couple of days. i was struck by something else cardinal dolan said yesterday in that horrible media scrum. he said a week ago i wouldn't have told you we were ready. now he says he feels that they are ready to make this decision. >> we forget that so many of these cardinals were appointed by pope benedict so they really...
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. >> pope benedict was elected in 2005 and formally known as cardinal joseph ratzinger and the something station will -- the expectation will begin about
. >> pope benedict was elected in 2005 and formally known as cardinal joseph ratzinger and the something station will -- the expectation will begin about
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they were very much in place under pope benedict xvi when he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. maybe it's time for someone outside of rome, who is not engrained in this culture, maybe it's time from someone from a developing nation, someone else to clean house. >> raymond, a former catholic friar in england spoke to christiane amanpour, and what he said, it really stuck with me. i wanted to play it for you. his name is mark dowd. >> homosexuality is the ticking time bomb in the catholic church. on the one hand, the church teaches that the condition of same-sex attraction is intrinsically disordered, those are ratzinger's own words from 1986, but we know about half if not all of people attracted to the seminaries are gay themselves. >> ratzinger is pope benedict. is this true? >> i think you have to step back for a second, erin. this is hardly a news flash. father donald cousins wrote about this 20 years ago. father andrew greeley coined the phrase lavender mafia talking about a subculture within the catholic church. but barbie was quite right. this is focusing the electorate's
they were very much in place under pope benedict xvi when he was cardinal joseph ratzinger. maybe it's time for someone outside of rome, who is not engrained in this culture, maybe it's time from someone from a developing nation, someone else to clean house. >> raymond, a former catholic friar in england spoke to christiane amanpour, and what he said, it really stuck with me. i wanted to play it for you. his name is mark dowd. >> homosexuality is the ticking time bomb in the...
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first vote, as you know last night, is full of complementary votes that don't really give you an indication, that gives the cardinals an indication of where the lay of the land lies. but they ought to have some reasonable idea now after this morning two ballots who has real traction, if anyone, and one can imagine after lunch and the typical italian reposo who may not have taken a nap this afternoon that some of the coalitions are being readjusted and cardinals are thinking now as they reenter the sistine chapel. >> so you talk about those adjustments. if the conclave were to end quickly, after this next vo
cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first...
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ratzinger of germany received 84 votes and he needed 77. jorge mario bergoglio with four votes. when her sister dumped me. oh dad, you remember my friend alex? yeah. the one that had the work done... [ male announcer ] sometimes being too transparent can be a bad thing. this looks good! [ male announcer ] but not with the oscar mayer deli fresh clear pack. it's what you see is what you get food. [ male announcer ] all stations come over tomayer mithis is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. because all these whole grains aren't healthy unless you actually eat them ♪ multigrai
ratzinger of germany received 84 votes and he needed 77. jorge mario bergoglio with four votes. when her sister dumped me. oh dad, you remember my friend alex? yeah. the one that had the work done... [ male announcer ] sometimes being too transparent can be a bad thing. this looks good! [ male announcer ] but not with the oscar mayer deli fresh clear pack. it's what you see is what you get food. [ male announcer ] all stations come over tomayer mithis is for real this time. step seven point two...
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he is, before he was the pope, he joseph ratzinger, and a profe professor. that's what he wanted to do in retirement. they is a theologian in part, so it's not surprised in that regard. pope watched the church deal with that difficulty as well as the scandals that many felt that they were flat-footed in responding to. >> well, again they're going to be conclave after the 28th. we'll know for the new season of easter who the new pope will be. ann, thanks so much. >>> so another horrific incident of gun violence, this time in delaware. a man shot his wife and a new woman at the newcastle courthouse this morning. the suspect also wounded two police officers. the suspect killed by police. >>> here's a look at what else is topping the news. the lapd is over a record $1 million reward to find chris dorner. the lapd says they will reopened the investigation that led to his firing. he's wanted for a killing spree in revenge for his dismissal. >>> hundreds of school districts canceled classes in new york, connecticut and massachusetts. >>> more than a dozen people we
he is, before he was the pope, he joseph ratzinger, and a profe professor. that's what he wanted to do in retirement. they is a theologian in part, so it's not surprised in that regard. pope watched the church deal with that difficulty as well as the scandals that many felt that they were flat-footed in responding to. >> well, again they're going to be conclave after the 28th. we'll know for the new season of easter who the new pope will be. ann, thanks so much. >>> so another...
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prior to becoming pope in 2005 then cardinal joseph ratzinger oversaw all abuse cases for the vatican. >>> the justice department arguing that socialite's jill kelly's lawsuit should be dismissed because there was no proof that privacy was violated. and her threats that ended up in the then cia director david petraeus. kelly and her husband filed a suit in june accusing the fbi of violating her privacy and accesses personal e-mails. >>> nine minutes past the hour. check on the weather. i don't see any there at all. >> look at that. >> tiny little stuff. >> we're talking about temperatures barely going up. either way, we're feeling that huge difference. there's no complaining anymore. it's really gorgeous out. it feels like fall, just a hint better. new york city, 74 is what we're shooting for today. towards d.c., 77. pittsburgh looking for 74. beautiful weather, the question is, will it last? it all depends what's going on in the southeast. kind of hard to picture this. notice all of the rain, i do mean all of the rain, ft. myers, 5.7 inches. this is the last several days. what we're
prior to becoming pope in 2005 then cardinal joseph ratzinger oversaw all abuse cases for the vatican. >>> the justice department arguing that socialite's jill kelly's lawsuit should be dismissed because there was no proof that privacy was violated. and her threats that ended up in the then cia director david petraeus. kelly and her husband filed a suit in june accusing the fbi of violating her privacy and accesses personal e-mails. >>> nine minutes past the hour. check on the...
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behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel it. i mean, at this moment. well, there you go. at the same time, when you see the -- when you see the swiss guards kind of ending their duty for the time being, i can't help but thinking of the whole history of the papacy. they're a personal guard of the pope because the pope is attacked before. the vatican has been attacked in the 20 centuries of church. even though there's surprises in the past, the schurch is still here and god is still working through the church and so i feel a lot of hope, as well. kind of excitement about what might -- what the next couple of weeks might bring. >> we see the th
behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel...
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i think benedict, joseph ratzinger wanted to be pope last team. he planned to do it. he gave a mark anthony speech. we all heard it during the funeral, which we covered last time. it looks to me like basically he has a 67 voters, majority of voters, in the college of cardinals that he has appointed personally. i think they'll be watching who he was. if he wants this fellow skoela, he is going to get him. >> it's not the ora of the papacy itself, and you, i think rightfully so, say that the decision could open up a period of soul-searching in the catholic church has, in fact, badly needed. >> right. that point about the most modern thing he did is a quote from michael sean winters, a very smart watcher and student of the catholic church. you know, i was listening to chris, and i think he has the politics broadly right, but this is kind of macciavelli versus the holy spirit here. >> which one? >> exactly. >> i don't represent the holy spirit. i just want to say those are the two views. because he is right. skola is the favorite going in, and the question is are all the
i think benedict, joseph ratzinger wanted to be pope last team. he planned to do it. he gave a mark anthony speech. we all heard it during the funeral, which we covered last time. it looks to me like basically he has a 67 voters, majority of voters, in the college of cardinals that he has appointed personally. i think they'll be watching who he was. if he wants this fellow skoela, he is going to get him. >> it's not the ora of the papacy itself, and you, i think rightfully so, say that...
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>> i was going to say chris, when it came to the selection of cardinal joseph ratzinger eight years ago, his name was out there before the conclave began but nobody was predicting the universal -- basically how quickly he was able to wrap up the election as he did. every chance that we may see white smoke before we know it? >> reporter: i don't think we will see it today. i said if we see it today, i will fall off this balcony. having said that down the know what the dynamics are going to be inside this radio. but i think the betting money here is certainly on no sooner than friday. they are already talking about having installation mass on tuesday, which would be the feast of st. joseph. if you look at the last nine conclaves, if history is any guide, they go just a little more than three days, but i think what's really different, and you know this, chuck, from the last time, is that it had been decades of a papacy and so a lot of these cardinal also known each other for a long time this time, more than half of them, this is their first conclave. so, there is a sense that no one has ri
>> i was going to say chris, when it came to the selection of cardinal joseph ratzinger eight years ago, his name was out there before the conclave began but nobody was predicting the universal -- basically how quickly he was able to wrap up the election as he did. every chance that we may see white smoke before we know it? >> reporter: i don't think we will see it today. i said if we see it today, i will fall off this balcony. having said that down the know what the dynamics are...